January 4, 2011

Rain Man's Agreement; or, I'm an Excellent Reporter

Welcome to the latest episode of Best Pictures from the Outside In, where Nick Davis, Nathaniel Rogers, and yours truly discuss two Best Picture winners as if they have something to do with each other, aside from winning Best Picture and being part of the secret Hollywood cabal that decides who lives and who has to star in movies with talking animals. New to this? Delve into the past.

Today in 1864 (Mike typed, about a month ago), General William Tecumseh Sherman reached Savannah, GA, nearing the end of his infamous March to the Sea that left a wide swath of the Confederacy in ruins. I mention him because he, like most of the people in the 1947 Best Picture winner Gentleman's Agreement, would most certainly out himself as an antisemite if given half a chance. And like Tom Cruise in the 1988 Best Picture winner Rain Man, he'd probably become a better person if he discovered that he had an autistic older brother, especially one with such a knack for coining catch-phrases.

But first, in case our readers haven't seen one or both of the films, or need to refresh their memory, I made this handy video:


Much like Sherman's March, these films left wide swaths of the Oscars and my sanity in ruins. Neither is a truly bad film, I think, but neither is particularly notable. Gentleman's Agreement is the archetype of the Social Problem Picture, an example of Hollywood studios deciding, often all at the same time (witness another 1947 Best Picture nominee, Crossfire, which is also about antisemitism), that there's an Important Issue Out There That We Must Address. It's a prestige production, uniting relative newcomer Elia Kazan with storied playwright Moss Hart, megastar Gregory Peck, and dependably great supporting players like Anne Revere, Celeste Holm, and Albert Dekker. It couldn't lose, and it didn't. But it's deadly dull, overwhelmingly earnest, and so wrapped up in providing scene after scene of average people demonstrating that they're thoughtlessly hateful that it gets a bit unwatchable by the halfway point. And over in 1988, Rain Man is a little harder to explain as a sure thing. Hot young star Tom Cruise finally gets his "not just a pretty face" role, Barry Levinson cements his reputation as a dependable director of ostensibly serious films that are also fun to watch, and Dustin Hoffman wins an Oscar for mastering three or four verbal and physical tics.

Since it's Hanukkah (or it was when I typed this), and in general a season of being generous, let's start by being nice: what was your favorite thing about each film? In Gentleman's it was most certainly every scene that the sublime Celeste Holm is onscreen (she's still alive! I want to meet her and thank her for being the best thing in a lot of movies!). In Rain Man, I have to admit to being pretty impressed with Tom Cruise, who I think would have been a more legitimate choice for a Best Actor nomination. But maybe that's going too far: he's certainly superior to Hoffman here, and I think he shows some growth as an actor from his earlier roles, and manages to sell me on both the change of heart and his inability to explain exactly why he's having it.

OK, your turn.

NICK: I can see that you have just asked us a question about something else, but before we move on, I just thought I should mention that I am a Scientologist. Did you guys know this about me? I suspect you didn't, and I'm uncertain as to your views about Scientology. Actually, I suspect your views might be negative or ill-informed, but if I keep telling you this about myself at totally inopportune moments, and you start acting uncomfortable about it, then boy will I have your number. I'll really have gotten you both where I want you. So, I just thought I should mention that I am a Scientologist. Please know that I am stiffly glowering at you as I say this.

Nathaniel, do you want to answer Mike's question? I got distracted, thinking about the Scientology that I practice, and I can't remember what he asked.

NATHANIEL: Here. Please put on this pair of Ray-Ban sunglasses so that
1. your hostile laser stare is hidden from view.
2. you may look appropriately "80s" (which is totally the best thing about you and Rain Man. We love a good time capsule.)

Ahhh, much better.

And now for some poorly managed hostility of my own: Mike, it's straight up selfish to ask what our favorite thing about Gentleman's Agreement is knowing that you've already hogged the only feasible answer. I don't even want to speak to you now except to maybe lecture you on your carelessly hurtful behavior.

Lectures are so hot. Well... if Gregory Peck is the one delivering them. But in all seriousness Celeste Holm is tremendously good in this movie as a sassy career gal with a big but slightly lonely social life. At first I was worried it was one of those cases where you latch on to and overvalue a charismatic performance because it saves you from its dull surroundings (too many examples to name) but by the movie's end I was convinced that I would have found her sensational even if she hadn't been surrounded by so much dead air; the portrait was so vivid I could project a whole sequel with her character as the star.

That said I feel certain that I like Gentleman's Agreement more than either of you. It is too stuffy and predetermined by half, yes, but its professorial angst strikes me as borne from genuine soul searching. To me it doesn't feel much like the lazy self-congratulatory tone of today's message movies, which generally take on safer more distance "messages" and then excuse all the lead characters of any of their residual complicity in the problem. Gentleman's Agreement seems genuinely ashamed of itself and though that doesn't make the movie particularly fun or exciting to watch, it does grant it curio value.

NICK: That's a really interesting take on the pluses of Gentleman's Agreement—and not only because I am, incidentally, a Scientologist. (Anyone feeling uncomfortable?) Dorothy McGuire, who gives a much more interesting performance than I had remembered, definitely works hard to make her character seem truly chastened, even when she hasn't worked out exactly what she's supposed to be ashamed of, or how ashamed, or how annoyed she's allowed to be in the face of all these admonishments. I like her and Holm in the movie, especially in Holm's final scene, where she makes clear she's in the film to do more than provide charming, insouciant relief from all the patronizing solemnity.

I was also surprised to see that, in framing and blocking, Gentleman's Agreement is actually quite interested in deep space and complexity, even if the overall film, especially the script and the other aspects of the direction, keep wanting to flatten things down. Sad to say that I think Peck is a big disappointment in this movie, partly because I think he avoids that interesting sense of complicity you're talking about, Nathaniel. He refuses to play the gadfly, hectoring "cons" of his character; despite having played an exciting, atypical series of rogues and headcases in the years before this film, he seems too convinced of Philip's righteousness: good for politics, maybe, but bad for drama. Even the romanticized dad in The Yearling is much more shaded than this guy. All that stuff in the script suggesting that Philip is kind of a sexist? Which comes up as early as his first meeting with McGuire's Kathy, when he seems startled that a woman could have articulate opinions, and she calls him out on that? Peck stays miles away from that sort of contradiction in his liberal crusader, or else Kazan insists on steering clear of it. I'd understand it if Fox felt the essential point of the movie was too urgent to qualify with more layers of nuance, but even Kazan didn't feel he deserved an Oscar for this movie.

MIKE: Nathaniel, I was going to say that we had to come up with something to admire aside from Celeste Holm, but I was afraid the task might have been impossible. It's not, of course: like I said, I don't think it's a terrible film. But I'll join Nick in faulting Peck for failure to dig in to his crusader: for me, Peck's singlemindedness quickly becomes the only interesting thing about him. It never seems to occur to him that if all these people who he thought of as decent sorts secretly harbored antisemitic opinions, maybe he does too, without having really thought about it. Instead, it's as if he's never met a Jewish person before, or been in the company of a Jewish person out in public, or been in the room when the subject came up. Where has he been hiding? Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of P. Schuyler Green?

But I can't agree about Dorothy McGuire. There's something stiff and plastic about her, like the only difference between "chastened" and "blissful" is that she bares those scary little milk teeth in the latter. (I'm being horrible, I know.) She's an odd one, and I have liked her in smaller roles, playing characters with a little more complexity and a little less screen time.

Is it too early to turn to Rain Man? No? Good.

So postwar Hollywood definitely had the treatment of Jews on its mind in 1947, as Gentleman's Agreement was up against Crossfire, whose noirish murder mystery plot didn't leave quite as much time for speechifying and finger-pointing. What, exactly, did Hollywood have on its mind in 1988, when Rain Man was victorious over, among others, a Gentleman's Agreement-style crusading film in Mississippi Burning? Whither the Academy's social conscience?

NICK: You mean, besides Scientology, as represented by one of the leading members of our congregation? Well, one thing it can't hurt to remind people is that Rain Man really seemed to foment a national conversation about autism. The topic has pretty universal currency now, but the whole release of Rain Man (which was the #1 grossing movie of that year, ahead of Who Framed Roger Rabbit?) and the many awards-show speeches fostered in its wake were pretty saturated with Gregory Peck-style lectures about how We Really Need To Know About This Condition. Again, no reason to fault the intentions of the film's makers, and I'm sure the cause benefited in lots of ways from such wide, high-profile exposure. But it's hard not to pine for a better vehicle than Who Stole Raymond Babbitt? to shine a spotlight on the problem.

As it is, we learn that if you care too much about sports cars and don't communicate well with your girlfriend AND don't care about your autistic brother, you are Bad. But, if you agree to drive across country rather than fly, and you watch game shows at the times your brother demands and hook him up with good tapioca, and then make a totally unrealistic claim on being his primary caretaker, you have become Good, or at least closer to Good. Jury still out on whether using your autistic brother to count cards in Vegas counts as obscenely disgusting or rakishly ingenious.

To this day, I don't understand what got everyone so wrapped up in Rain Man, and I'm even more weirded out to remember that it copped the Golden Bear at Berlin. Admittedly, the Best Picture line-up and the Berlin competition slate were both pretty weak that year, but there were plenty of phenomenal movies in '88. Why THIS one? (I think we were maybe supposed to start with pluses again, and I effed up for a second time.)

MIKE: Here's a plus: it had people across the country shuffling along with their knees together, heads cocked to the side, saying "I'm an excellent driver" and "Definitely! Definitely!" And that was pretty funny. Did you notice how many times Raymond seems to vary his inflections to serve as the punchline to a scene? Dustin Hoffman gave us the world's first autistic stand-up comedian! I think this might be the absolute nadir of giving Oscars to people for playing characters with disabilities. But I think it's Nathaniel's turn. Definitely.

NICK: I agree, and that final "K-Mart SUCKS!" is sort of the ne plus ultra of the pattern you're talking about. But I promise to count toothpicks till it really is my turn again.

MIKE: The word "Jew" is used in the Gentleman's Agreement script 472 times. Definitely.

NATHANIEL, after a long pause: I think what you're both forgetting when wondering why Rain Man caught fire is the near-universal love of the catchphrase in the 1980s. I'm not saying that previous decades didn't love a good quotable but in many ways the 80s were all about preparing the world for internet and then for twitter and soundbytes and reductive conversations where opposing parties just shout talking points at each other while no one actually communicates. Where's the beef in conversations? Politically speaking, at least, aren't we experiencing communal autism today?

I don't know for sure but I feel certain that whoever invented Twitter was born in that decade and was maybe experiencing a particularly unruly hormonal surge during puberty when someone shouted SHOW ME THE MONEY at them in late '96/early '97 when another ubiquitous Best Tom Cruise Picture catchphrase was all over the Oscars. Tom Cruise was once the king of catchphrases rather than the brunt of punchlines.

I don't love Rain Man as a film, but I think I have to admit that I do love it a little bit as an 80s time capsule: the tone, the 'tude, the Tom. And I do think it's handsomely shot (god, I miss film grain) particularly when it comes to the color palette which is just something you don't see anymore: neons, pinks, purples, golds. Movies right now seem to have only two color options: steel blue or peagreen filters (serious and/or genre stuff) or lit too bright without any discernible palette as if they're made for television (lighter fare).

MIKE: Weird thought: Rain Man came in the middle of Tom Cruise's transition from savant-like characters into more adult roles. He was always a guy with serious social difficulties but kickass skills at some limited thing: flying a plane (Top Gun), using a pool cue (The Color of Money), mixing a drink (Cocktail), driving a racecar (Days of Thunder). Maybe that's why he bonded so well with Raymond. Anyway.

I actually enjoy large sections of the film: those popping colors you mentioned, even if I often disagreed with the location of the camera or the timing of a cut; Tom Cruise's performance, even though it's more of a "most improved" mention than a Best Actor award; Hans Zimmer's score is a solid example of a certain kind of film score, that sort of "we haven't quite given up on synthesizers but we're recognizing their limitations" late-1980s sound I associate with Michael Mann productions. (Speaking of things associated with the late 1980s and early 1990s: Valeria Golino. What was up with her brief but undeniable popularity? Nick, you like actresses. Explain.)

NICK: Camera location and timing of cuts are problems throughout Rain Man for me, too, and I have to say, I really don't like the score. Inexplicable didgeridoos. Heavy Graceland residues (as in Paul Simon, not Elvis Presley). The unholy coming together of autism and 80s-era "world music," as if Raymond hails from some far-off place we don't really know anything about, preferring a weird sheen of pre-packaged mystique. Zimmer actually did the score for the other BP winner we just covered, Driving Miss Daisy, which I think boasted the first all-Casio movie score, though it doesn't sound as much like it as Rain Man's does.

I think Golino has some low-key charisma going for her in this part, but maybe I just appreciate the relative breath of fresh air away from the pair of very earnest performances at the center of the movie. Cruise does take some steps forward here; his onetime agent and later producing partner Paula Wagner had to lobby hard to get him this part, not least because Charlie was originally written to be older than Raymond. He repays her trust, but too many scenes catch Hoffman doing transparently unscripted things so as to get a rise out of Cruise/Charlie and teach him something about "being in the moment." Sometimes Charlie's confusion just plays to me as Cruise being unwilling or disinclined to hide how much he is suddenly learning about acting, amidst what he clearly perceives as a promotion to the big leagues. It's touching but also exasperating, like watching a tee-ball player grow thrilled and awestruck at suddenly pitching for the Mets, not realizing he's omitting a huge step and is actually still in the minor leagues, still susceptible delusions of grandeur. But give it up to Rain Man for seducing so many people into sharing its view of itself.

Now I'm thinking about minor-league baseball, dim and erratic upstarts, and slumming older pros, and I'm realizing all over again that the magnificent Bull Durham didn't even get a chance to take the AMPAS World Series away from this peculiar pishtosh.

Oh, and one more thing—I'm not a Scientologist! Ha HA! But did everyone learn a lot by my pretending to be? What should I wear to accept my Pulitzer?

MIKE: You know, I totally forgot about that didgeridoo. I went back to look at my notes, and the first thing I wrote down was "Digiridoo? Come on!" Misspelling and everything. And yeah, of course it's there and doesn't belong, but it's almost like this film contains some kind of subconscious coding that makes the bad parts fade from my memory faster than the good parts. I still like the score, despite the didgeridoo, and my overall feeling toward the film is a sort of condescending affection, even though it was so galling to watch.

NATHANIEL: Your scientology masqueraded reminded me that if a movie is not enough on its own we must project entertainment on to it! And aren't Best Picture winners generally the kinds of movies that are fully able to accept these projections?

Whether that "empty vessel" effect is achieved through spectacular engineering (Casablanca et al.) or reductions of shared history (Forrest Gump et al.) or magical inversions of intensely personal issues (American Beauty et al.) or plain ol' dumb luck (Rain Man?) aren't most Oscar winners basically successful at being all things to all people?

Rain Man is a trifle, but at least it plays like a "light" movie, particularly in comparison to Gentleman's Agreement's more familiar heavy sobriety. Since Rain Man isn't trying to be a grand statement but an entertainment, albeit stitched together with Serious Issue thread, it saves itself from the Emperor's New Clothes critique that's so easy to level against Important Movies.

But it's definitely not wearing any underpants.

Posted by mike, January 4, 2011 4:20 PM
Comments

It's been a while since I saw Rain Man, but I don't remember believing much of it.

As for Gentleman's Agreement: it's preachy, stolid, earnest, dull, and pretty much all the things you guys alluded to. I don't think it's groundbreaking in many ways (except for perhaps the sentiment with which it was made in the first place), but there was a moment in the film which made me reconsider my stance a little.

Again, the memory is hazy, but it's basically where McGuire doesn't speak up against the social peers in the bar/restaurant who are making the racist remarks, and she either has a complete meltdown about it or Peck gives her a hard time. It's not really a huge thing, but it's still valid now. When I'm in certain social situations and in the same boat as her, I always think of this moment as a reason not to register with the prejudice, or sometimes to challenge it, or sometimes to just walk away.

I think Agreement handles the Jewish issue eminently more comfortably than Crossfire, where it feels like a tokenly added motivation at times, even if the latter is much more visually and dramatically enticing as a production.

Posted by: Cal at January 4, 2011 6:08 PM

It's impressive that you all seem to think both these films are relatively dull yet you found so many interesting things to say.

Haven't seen either of them, I'm afraid, and you didn't make me really eager to.

I love Nathaniel's comment about catchphrase/80s/twitter etc.

Very enjoyable conversation, as always, and lovely clip. Was it made beforehand? Cause Nick's brilliant Scientology speech seemed to totally imitate the robotic/autistic tone of it.

Posted by: James T at January 4, 2011 6:48 PM

you know i didn't even get the extent to which Nick's joke worked on both levels (Gentleman's are you prejudiced against us? screenplay AND tom cruise). it's joy. love those double sided jokes.

I also want to take this moment to mention that I am also a huge BULL DURHAM fan and still, to this day, don't understand how they f'd that one up so badly. That movie was a big hit and it was critically respected AND it was a big comeback for susan sarandon and they just snubbed it over and over again. UGH.

Sarandon shoulda won that Oscar and wasn't even nominated. Boo.

Posted by: Nathaniel R at January 5, 2011 6:38 AM

Nathaniel - That last line made me giggle, mostly because one of my most vivid memories of RAIN MAN is that it marked (for me, at least) the major film debut of Calvin Klein's boxerbriefs (another bit to confirm your explication of the film as 80stimecapsule/ComingAttractions trailer for all that would follow).

Nick - your speculation that we're watching Cruise "learn" on-camera is brilliant. I suspect you're spot on, but (after this write up) I am disinclined to hide my lack of interest in watching this film again.

And, Mike, I DID have the opportunity to meet Celeste Holm about twenty years ago and thanked her for being my favorite in so many movies. She smiled and nodded in a manner suggesting that she gets that a lot...

Thanks, gents, once again, for this ramble down middlebrow-memory-lane...

Posted by: Brian Herrera/StinkyLulu at January 5, 2011 9:03 AM

I think we all need to pose for a moment of sil--JEALOUSY that Brian has met Celeste Holm.

If she had been in Rain Man it would have been better.

Posted by: Nathaniel R at January 5, 2011 9:59 AM

[Responding to @3rtfu11's defense of Rain Man over at Nathaniel's spiffily redesigned blog - let's keep the convo in one place!...]

In principle, I agree that the Oscars ought to consider domestic comedies and dramas more often as heavyweight contenders; You Can Count on Me is a great example of something that might have made a bigger dent in early- or mid-80s Oscar balloting but tends to get limited to acting and writing. At the same time, I just don't think AMPAS was always wise in its choices of which domestic dramas to get excited about, and the filmmaking in Rain Man seems really wan and inconsistent. Still, I like hearing the less popular position defended. (It all comes down to money anyway: if we still inhabited a film culture where Kramer, Ordinary People, Terms, and Rain Man were among the year's biggest grossers, we'd see those kinds of films more often in the Best Picture race.)

Also, @James T: Mike's video was made after we had our conversation, but I agree, he did a brilliant job making it resonate with our chat. Funny stuff, Mike!

Posted by: Nick Davis at January 5, 2011 3:17 PM

I'm curious -- though it's slightly off topic -- if the readers agree with Nick (as I do) that Bull Durham was grossly undernominated.

But also... to continue the appropriate conversation. the stuff about Peck not shading his crusader. I wonder, honestly, if that's direction. Not just in this instance but it seems to be a common thread in message movies that the message takes precedent over full characterizations. So when you see someone working against that reduction, it can be thrilling albeit in only small ways if the film works against them (i'm thinking of Charlize Theron in North Country here... who I sensed was up for far more than the film was willing to be up for even though i wouldn't have nominated her myself.)

but was is Kazan or Peck... or was the whole thing just too singleminded?

Posted by: Nathaniel R at January 5, 2011 3:28 PM

Am I the only person left in the world who loves Rain Man to Death? Maybe it's because I saw it at a pretty crucial point in my life and it sparked several conversations with my parents, but I've watched at least twice a year since I was 13 and it still makes me laugh, and cry and reminds me why I love Dustin Hoffman. So many great scenes and moments to remember, such as the Serious Injury notebook that Ray carries, or Ray farting in a phonebooth (for a laugh), or the hotel room where Ray freaks out about the hot water, or even that really moving dance in the elevator. The film get me every time I see it. It may not be the best film of 1988, but it's one that holds a very special place in my movie-going heart.

Posted by: Isaac Richter at January 5, 2011 3:44 PM

In one way, it does seem like direction, which is weird to me, because Kazan is such a genius at coaxing actors into multi-dimensional portraits of their characters. It's just bizarre to imagine that the guy responsible for A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, Streetcar, Waterfront, Baby Doll, Face in the Crowd, Wild River, and Splendor in the Grass would be responsible for Peck being so wooden here -- and, even more disconcertingly, the usually inventive Anne Revere looking so flat and unpersuaded. I've often read that Kazan's other movie from 1947, Boomerang!, was his richer effort, but that film is even more simplistically convinced of who's "good" and who isn't.

But then, McGuire and Holm really strike me as having Kazan's full support as they explore different edges of their characters. And since Peck occasionally had a problem slipping into stern or bland nobility, I'm tempted to blame him. Maybe it's just about casting. There are so many 40s stars who would have enjoyed making Philip a bit of a jerk or a prankster or a thug or an ambivalent participant in his own charade, as well as the noble crusader. Wouldn't Dana Andrews, star of Boomerang!, have been great here? In all his best movies, he always seems like he's of at least two minds about what he's doing, even though he can be heroic or at least hyper-confident at the same time.

Posted by: Nick Davis at January 5, 2011 3:49 PM

Isaac -- i've long believed that when we see things and in what circumstances affects us tremendously. And it's totally cool to have movies like that. It doesn't matter if it make anyone else feel htat way. so cool that it works for you.

I remember liking it more IN the 80s, particularly Hoffman's performance but it was never the one i was drawn to even at the time. I was obsessed with dangerous liaisons and bull durham and roger rabbit (ugh. why wasn't that nominated? so classic) that year.

Nick -- Dana Andrews. yes. (and yum)

Posted by: Nathaniel R at January 5, 2011 6:14 PM

I want to say especial thanks to Nathaniel for at least liking McGuire....who I happen to like in Gentleman's Agreement and I can never put my figure on it. Sure, Celeste is excellent - but I love her - and best-in-show (agree with Mike, there), but she has a nice character. For me, McGuire has almost nothing to work with AND she's playing opposite Peck who I'm rarely entertained by. Eh.

And I REALLY hate Rain Man. I went out and bought way back when I was in that "youthful Oscar loving" mentality after seeing Dangerous Liaisons and wondering what beat it for the Oscars. I though, "Hmm, Dustin Hoffman. Best Picture Winner. How bad can it be?" Well it was bad, easily one of my least favourite winners.

I can never understand how Hoffman won his two Oscars for two very undistinguished performances (and in Best Picture winners, no less.) Like Nick, I don't think I fully understand Rain Man and its appeal - something I can at least glean with Kramer vs Kramer (which is admittedly better).

(Did I read this too quickly or was this episode especially short?)

Posted by: Encore Entertainment at January 5, 2011 8:09 PM


Nick,
I’m letting you know I don’t agree with the win. However, I do want to discourage the easy way out of just dismissing it because the film wasn’t your preferred contender.

On an unrelated note – I sent you an email concerning your Best Actress project and I desperately want you to read it ASAP!

Nathaniel,
Bull Durham’s main asset is Susan Sarandon and the Academy went for the rape victim, a working girl and the dingo took my baby.

Posted by: /3rtfu11 at January 5, 2011 8:24 PM

@Andrew: Actually, I'm the one who stood up for McGuire, with a little egg on my face at that, because I'd remembered her as being really flat and have said so on multiple occasions to multiple people over the years. I'm actually thrilled that she tries as hard with the role as she does, though I know Mike disagrees. In fact, you've made me want to know: Nathaniel, what did you think of her in this?

@/3rtfu11: Well, I don't think we dismissed Rain Man just because it wasn't our preferred contender, do you? I wouldn't make any strong claims for any of that year's nominees, but that aside, I hope it feels like we held Rain Man accountable for what we see as its own flaws. I think I dislike the movie more than Mike and Nathaniel do, but I hope it didn't sound like I was taking an "easy way out."

Posted by: Nick Davis at January 5, 2011 8:52 PM

Oh crap. Sorry, Nick. I probably blocked you out because you're a Scientology and all. Sorry.

And on Rain Man, you guys let off it off easy.

Posted by: Encore Entertainment at January 5, 2011 8:58 PM

I've seen both these movies and I don't remember a thing about either of them (except the catchphrases, now that you've jogged my memory); shouldn't a Best Picture winner at least be memorable?

Dana Andrews? I love her.

Posted by: par3182 at January 5, 2011 9:23 PM

par -- HEH.

encore -- maybe.

nick -- i fall in the middle with McGuire. I do think she works well in the "why the fuck won't you stop lecturing me oh crap maybe i am deeply flawed?" slightly irritated way. But I have trouble seeing her as coupled with Peck which caused a bit of a disconnect for me in buying the whole relationship. Either it was their chemistry or I am inhumanly attracted to Peck (very possible) and thus expect him to be paired with like Liz Taylor or something -- someone spectacularly/earth shatteringly beautiful. Not that Liz is the right age in 1946 but you get what i mean i hope.

encore -- the weirdest thing for me about Hoffman here is remembering he DIDN'T win for Tootsie. I think his Tootsie performance is the crowning achievement of 1982.

but if i'm being honest I thought he deserved the win for Rainman back in 1988. But i was much younger than and was really wowed by the OMG. DISABILITY! thing. I was tricked by bait!!!!

Posted by: Nathaniel R at January 5, 2011 10:06 PM

encore -- yeah. i think this one is a bit shorter than usual. i weirdly had so little to say about GENTLEMAN's even though i think i liked it a lot more than Nick & Mike.

Posted by: Nathaniel R at January 5, 2011 10:09 PM

Oldie but a goodie!

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