May 29, 2005
Time's Top 100
Time's two Richards, Schickel and Corliss, put together a list of the top 100 films of all time. It's a pretty good list (not as good as my list, of course), except they are cheating cowards: cheating, because they include trilogies and television miniseries in the list, and cowards, because they refused to rank them. They should know that scoffing at the rankings is the greatest pleasure one can derive from a top 100 list.
The trilogies thing is more annoying than usual in this instance because they applied it only when it served their purposes: The Apu Trilogy is on there as one film, as is The Lord of the Rings. Yet only Star Wars is there; why not include Empire or Jedi, the former of which is considerably better than Star Wars? And they split the difference on The Godfather, including parts one and two but jettisoning the third. Not that I blame them, of course, but still. It's the principle of the thing.
They copied 29 from my top 100 list, and my lawyer will be in touch with them: Aguirre, the Wrath of God; Band of Outsiders; Blade Runner; Bride of Frankenstein; Casablanca; Chinatown; Citizen Kane; Dr. Strangelove; The Godfather; The Godfather: Part II; The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly; Goodfellas; A Hard Day's Night; His Girl Friday; The Lady Eve; Lawrence of Arabia; The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring; The Manchurian Candidate; Notorious; On the Waterfront; Pulp Fiction; Raging Bull; Schindler's List; The Searchers; Sherlock Jr.; Some Like It Hot; A Streetcar Named Desire; Sweet Smell of Success; and White Heat.
Why aren't Double Indemnity, The 400 Blows, In a Lonely Place, Out of the Past, Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans, Taxi Driver, and Wings of Desire on my list? Revisions, revisions, revisions. Of course, I'd tear my hair out attempting to pick which films to bump.
These 19 are acceptable on anyone's top 100 list, though they didn't make mine: The Awful Truth; Bonnie and Clyde; Brazil; City Lights; City of God; The Crowd; Dodsworth; E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial; Farewell My Concubine; Ikiru; It's A Wonderful Life; Kind Hearts and Coronets; King Kong; Metropolis; Ninotchka; Once Upon a Time in the West; Star Wars; and Unforgiven.
I have reservations about these: Barry Lyndon was good, yes, but it also bored me to tears at times. I need to see it again. Chunking Express is good, yes, but Wong Kar-Wai's best film is In the Mood for Love. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie is very good, but if you're going to put Bunuel on the list, there are many films that would come before this one, like That Obscure Object of Desire. Finding Nemo: Again, a really good film, but there are at least three Pixar films that are better than this one. The Last Command is a good film, and a great performance, but for this to be the only Sternberg film on the list is a crime. Miller's Crossing...I guess I just never saw what made this film so great. Almost all of the Coen brothers' movies I've seen are better than this. If you're going to pick a Disney movie, Pinocchio ranks around fourth; I'd have been happier with Beauty and the Beast. Are the film geeks going to take away my license to practice if I admit that Psycho never did it for me? I liked it, but it wasn't earth-shattering. The Shop around the Corner is not even close to Lubitsch's best; what about Trouble in Paradise or Heaven Can Wait? I need to see Singin' in the Rain again. I was unimpressed when I first saw it, back when I thought I didn't like musicals. Yojimbo is fun and funny, but there are at least a half-dozen other Kurosawa films that would go on before this one. And Detour is the essence of noir distilled into a film that works even when it shouldn't, but noir is full of films that are just as gripping and a lot more technically accomplished.
Can someone tell me what The Fly and Talk to Her are doing on a top 100 list?
I'm really happy they included these three, although I wouldn't have put them on mine: Dodsworth is one of the great forgotten films of the 1930s; The Legend of Drunken Master (a.k.a. Drunken Master II) is an oddball pick, but it feels right; and In a Lonely Place might just be Bogie's best performance.
I haven't seen The Apu Trilogy; Baby Face; Berlin Alexanderplatz; Camille; Charade; Children of Paradise; Closely Watched Trains; Day for Night; The Decalogue; 8 1/2; Invasion of the Body Snatchers; It's A Gift; Kandahar; The Man with a Movie Camera; Meet Me in St. Louis; Mon oncle d'Amerique; Olympia, Parts 1 and 2; Persona; The Purple Rose of Cairo; The Singing Detective; Smiles of a Summer Night; Swing Time; Tokyo Story; Ugetsu; Ulysses' Gaze; or Umberto D. A lot of them are on my Netflix queue.
I've never even heard of The Crime of Monsieur Lange, Leolo, Mouchette, Nayakan, Pyaasa, and A Touch of Zen. I'm ashamed of the gaps in my foreign film knowledge.
I stole this idea from Nick Davis, one of my favorite reviewers. Feel free to check out his top 100 list and his reaction to the Time list.
Posted by mike, May 29, 2005 12:21 AMI was impressed by some of their picks, including "Yojimbo," "Aquirre: The Wrath of God," and "City of God." But they also felt the need to put freakin' "Finding Nemo" "Meet Me in St. Louis," and "E.T." on it. Geesh. And they were too big of pussies to rank them. :-P
Posted by: shane at May 29, 2005 12:26 AMA lot of people think Finding Nemo is top 100 material. I don't, but I think it's an awesome movie. Same with E.T. Never seen Meet Me in St. Louis.
Posted by: mike at May 29, 2005 12:27 AMWhat the hell is wrong with E.T.? It IS one of the greatest movies of all time.
Posted by: shawn at May 29, 2005 12:28 AMI don't think there is anything wrong with it. It didn't make my top 100, but I can't argue with anyone who includes it on theirs.
Posted by: mike at May 29, 2005 12:29 AMDidn't say that E.T. and Finding Nemo weren't good movies. Top 100? No way.
Posted by: shane at May 29, 2005 12:29 AM(You may have noticed that I transfered the relevant comments from the last post over to here.)
Posted by: mike at May 29, 2005 12:31 AMThanks for the plugs, Mike! But now onto the matters at hand...
Except for the skepticism about Pinocchio, the paragraph above that begins "I have reservations about these" is like reading a transcript of my own brain. Just ditto ditto ditto ditto all down the line. It's interesting to me that we agree so exactly on this entire cluster, given our disagreements elsewhere. As far as those go, I'm a big champion of The Fly and Talk to Her, but the way you feel about these is how I feel about The Bride of Frankenstein.
Your Singin' in the Rain is my Hard Day's Night... I should really see it again. And btw, I "remembered" not liking Singin', either, when I also didn't like musicals, and then when I popped it in six years ago, it instantly became an all-time favorite. For what it's worth, man.
And on that note, amongst the films you're still catching up with, I've seen about half of them and I'd say Persona is by far the best, with Man with a Movie Camera, Smiles of a Summer Night, Camille, Pather Panchali (Apu I), Purple Rose of Cairo, and 8½ worth of the fast-track on your queue.
Now I'm off to count how many of my 100 are also on their 100. How did I not think of that before? :)
Posted by: Nick at May 29, 2005 1:17 AMOnly 20.
Forgot to mention: Mouchette is also very good, though I still say Country Priest and Pickpocket are where it's at with Bresson.
Posted by: Nick at May 29, 2005 1:22 AMI'm glad you guys didn't ignore documentaries on your lists. Both Time and AFI ignored them completely. Bastards. I've decided if the list doesn't contain at least two docs I'm going to ignore it. There are at least five docs on my list and possibly up to ten, but I'm kinda biased. Anyway, I'm never putting together a top 100 list. I don't know how you two did it without killing yourselves. (gasping for breath)Too...many...movies.
Posted by: Shawn at May 29, 2005 11:48 AMAnd The Purple Rose of Cairo, Tokyo Story and The Crime of Monsieur Lange are all brilliant. That's not my opinion. It's a fact. hehe
Posted by: Shawn at May 29, 2005 11:51 AMThanks, Shawn - yeah, I don't see how you leave out documentaries on lists like these. I'm curious which 5-10 would be on your list....
Posted by: Nick at May 29, 2005 12:40 PMThey technically have one doc on their list, Man with a Movie Camera. I have it on tape, and I should really see it. Want to watch it with me, Shawn?
Posted by: mike at May 29, 2005 1:19 PMMan with a Movie Camera is amazing, but I doubt you'll have the sense it's a documentary. It's more of a collage/experimental piece.
Posted by: Nick at May 29, 2005 1:51 PMI'd love to watch it with you, sexy.
Posted by: Shawn at May 29, 2005 2:11 PMI found "Double Indemnity" to be really overrated. So there!
The best thing about the list to me was that it gave me some great ideas of some things to add to my Netflix queue. Brilliant!
Posted by: shane at May 31, 2005 9:43 AMHere are some docs that could make my list. Five of them would definitely make the cut. Keep in mind that I have not seen Nanook of the North or Salesman or Hearts and Minds. (I know, I know. I'm an idiot.)
Hoop Dreams
Fast Cheap and Out of Control
High School
Don't Look Back
Harlan County, U.S.A.
Gimme Shelter
Spellbound
The Weather Underground
Little Dieter Needs to Fly
The Atomic Cafe
American Movie
Crumb
Koyaanisqatsi
Keep the River on Your Right
The Corporation
Scratch
Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills
I can say that Hoop Dreams, High School and Fast, Cheap and Out of Control are on the list. As for the rest, I don't know. This kind of stuff is too hard for me. I don't know which baby to kill.
Posted by: Shawn at May 31, 2005 6:18 PMAnd Axis of Evil, of course. hehe
Posted by: Shawn at May 31, 2005 6:19 PM